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What Kind of Leader Does the World Need Right Now? Elise Ann Allen on Pope Leo XIV

Elise Ann Allen talks with Frank Schaeffer about Pope Leo XIV, moral leadership, friendship, and what it means to remain human.

I loved this Conversation with Vatican journalist Elise Ann Allen, the first reporter to interview Pope Leo XIV after his election, diving deep in Leo’s life, character, and moral vision.

We discussed his years serving the poor in Peru, the influence of friendship and Augustinian spirituality, the political polarization shaping modern life, and why Leo’s message about human dignity feels so urgent right now.

Elise is a fantastic writer and a lovely person and her excellent book is a reflection on conscience, hope, and the kind of leadership many people are searching for.


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Elise Ann Allen is a correspondent in Rome for the specialized media outlet Crux. Before joining Crux, Allen worked with Catholic News Agency, first as a multimedia and content management assistant in Denver, Colorado. She holds a degree in philosophy and communication from the University of Northern Colorado.